Ok, looks like just by the name you werent conviced, so.
When u type like hum, example : /ignore ArtMax
You wont be abble to see messages the players leaves, he also wont be able see ur messages
You wont be able to see him in-game and he cant see you too
Nothing less, nothing more.
An ignore command is an interesting suggestion, but your premise for the command isn’t exactly just. Could you please refrain from bringing up matters such as those for the basis for your suggestion? Thank you.
If you’re having a problem with that player, bring it up with a staff member.
/ignore ArtMax
sigh
Anyway, you’ve not given any premise on why it should be added. You can just like, ignore the person manually by not feeding them. Easy. If they continue to bother you, report to staff, simple. I am all for an ignore command, but if you aren’t willing to elaborate, no one will take it seriously.
Every game, EVERY multiplayer game have it, why wouldnt PMU have?
Its such a standard thing to have.
just because its common isn’t really a supporting argument for why to add it. though i don’t see much purpose in command myself, namely because there is a far simpler and more effective way to handle ignoring people, which is to, that’s right, ignore them. it’s fool proof. and with no needed efforts from outside parties to boot.
also it seems a far stretch to expect an ignore command to filter someone out of the game for you, i’m not sure if ignoring is the same now but last i checked it was purely chat channel based. not crop that person out of the game for eternity, which could cause some conflicts to the more multiplayer aspects of the game like pvp and events. it also seems like a solution that seals any hope of future repentance/repairs which isn’t a very desirable outcome.
I just don’t see a need for this, and ArtMax isn’t worth a /ignore command. You could always leave town/go somewhere else. Like what KAEN said, it conflicts with the multiplayer aspects of the game.
Are you guys for real?
Just because u can deal with it without a command, doesnt mean others cant.
Just because you can’t deal with it without a command doesn’t mean you can’t learn how to deal with it.
If someone’s bothering you, it’s best to handle the situation by talking to others about this problem. If it’s for poor reasons, you won’t be able to get much support. A poor reason would be “because he’s annoying” or “because I don’t like him”. But if it’s a good reason like “he’s spamming too much” or “he’s insulting me”, then more support will be given, and action will be more likely to be taken. It’s immature just to ignore someone just because they don’t agree with you or have a different way of playing the game.
There was a reason why the “/ignore command” thread was locked. You were just complaining and not giving any good reason as to why we should have this command implemented in the game. So I give no support to this command.
Look, I really shouldn’t have to say this nor do I want to, but you have to hear it from somebody.
Every single person who’s argued against this suggestion has given the dumbest, most irrational, nonsensical, inane, counterintuitive crap-reasons I’ve ever seen in my life. And I’ve been on the internet a long time; you’d think after ten years of this stuff I’d have been exposed to the worst of it! I should be numb. But no. Right here, in 2014, you guys are making absolutely no sense. None.
I’m the first to insist it’s not constructive to aim at people rather than their arguments, but I can’t discuss anything with someone with no common sense, and that’s what some people here are lacking. It’s like you’re entirely disconnected from reality; these perspectives make no sense. I could’ve went at all your points one by one like I usually do, but for what? So you come right back with 1.5x the thoughtlessness? I’m not that smart, but even I recognize it wouldn’t go anywhere fast.
How can anyone think that an ignore feature will harm the game? It’s standard in EVERY MMO (including those a million times both bigger and smaller than PMU) not just because it’s popular, but because people with their heads screwed on right have already figured out that it’s important for the player experience.
Just because the guy who suggested it didn’t present it thoroughly and mistakenly included another user in his suggestion, you won’t take a fantastic suggestion seriously? Like, you don’t have the vision to see why this is vital and you can’t fill in the blanks for yourselves? You have got to be kidding me. Even I wasn’t as out of touch as some of you when I was thirteen, fourteen, fifteen. And trust me, I had my moments. Still do.
But the problem here is you’re holding back both the game and the community and you’re doing it with abhorrent reasoning.
If the staff won’t tell you, then I will: you guys are making fools of yourselves. There’s nothing else to say. You’re thinking like kids rather than adults, and it’s like every other post that comes from you literally paralyzes me with utter disbelief.
Sorry, not sorry. Get with it for crying out loud. PMU still has work ahead of it to become an even better PMD MMO, and you four are over here just spinning your wheels.
I am genuinely sorry to MegaClaw for going tangent in his thread. But trust me, these folks wouldn"t have let the thread go anywhere beneficial to PMU anyway.
Alright, I’ll admit it. Maybe I was the immature one for not thinking about both sides. The only reason though that I acted so irrationally is because of the MegaClaw’s reasoning and for calling out a member as his support. The other posters has been trying to point that out to him. As I stated though, it’s a bit hasty to just ignore someone without at least trying to sort out the problem, but then you did give a fair point that children do play this game and won’t think of a clever way to handle the situation like the older people.
This comment here actually made me reconsider my disagreement towards this idea. There hasn’t been much of an argument for why we should have an /ignore command, but your argument stands. It’s important for the player’s experience. I really didn’t have any idea as to why we should have this command, but then this came to me. While waiting for a staff member to take your report, you could easily ignore them so they don’t further disturb you. It would be much easier to talk to others if this certain person started spamming Global Chat and making problems for everyone. Very nice point, Poochie.
Honestly, I couldn’t. Usually, I look through other people’s posts before making a comment of my own, usually reflecting the opinions of the people of the thread. Because it was so biased, I really could not think of anything to say about the suggestion until you put in your rant. Also, the suggestion is always debated. If there’s a problem with a suggestion, we debate the idea. That’s why when something controversial happens to be in that first post, then we usually focus on that and not the suggestion itself.
This I’ll agree with. That was quite silly of me to just make a comment without actually thinking of the benefits. So, I would like to amend this problem.
I’ve decided to change my vote to support. And here are my reasons why:
PMU has a lot of problems. Trolls are everywhere, people are quitting because of the severity of drama in the community, and we’re starting to lose a lot of people because of this mess. We cannot just report a person to the staff anymore. They’ll still be rambunctious and incredibly persistent in being quite rude. So, there’s only one solution we need for this problem.
The implementation of the /ignore command.
As MegaClaw has put in the first post, you could easily just type in /ignore “username” and the problem of one player can be resolved! You won’t be able to see the messages that this player types. Though, unlike what MegaClaw suggested, you’ll still be able to see this player. That way, you can avoid problems with droptrading and this player swooping in to steal your items or if you still wish to battle this player in the arena without hearing the insults that are slung at you.
This is my adaption to this suggestion that I give support to.
I dont even know what im doing now.
Im sorry guys, im a bit mad from what happened those weeks.
Ive been raging alot at League of Legends, Ive even got 200 game chat restrict there, ive been swearing alot at PMU, ive been really rude at the community and now im doing so senseless posts on the forums.
Someone should lock this post, it wont happen again i promise.
It’s still a relevant suggestion and because of that I don’t think this thread ought to be locked prematurely. Eventually someone will make the same thread a third time. Might as well keep it open.
how about instead of acting like a ten year old and just throwing insults at everyone you actually provide some reasons beyond ‘everyone else is doing it’ or “you all too stupid” for why pmu should prioritize this feature? i mean seriously, you call everyone else kids yet you seem to be the only person here incapable of having a civilized discussion.
as to lucario, thank you for being the first person to support this command in a mature fashion although it hasn’t really changed my views. i can see how the command might be useful to briefly stave off someone someone who’s pestering you while waiting for staff, but i don’t see why staff need to waste their time coding such a command if it’s only going to be useful for ten minutes or so. and apart from that the command has very little purpose, because once you have staff handling the situation with another person they either have to stop bothering you or they’ll be muted which also stops them from bothering you.
I already elaborated on why it’s more than just “everyone else is doing it.” But you’re still missing the point entirely. Rather than momentarily stepping back to reflect on the illogical approach you’ve been taking with literally everything, you flip it right back at me. I knew it; Pikablu owes me $5.
But you have to admit, the little things about the game is what gives it its charm. The guilds, the command function, the design… It just keeps adding on and on to give the game more flavor. You could say that the staff wasted their time with coding in Emoticons for RPers or that the “/away” command was a waste of time, but they all have their charm and use. So why not have an /ignore command?
And what do you mean that it will be useful for ten minutes? Say that there wasn’t any staff online at the moment. Then how could you report them? You would have to wait until one gets on the forums to see your report or until a staff member comes online. And even then, it might not be a staff member that wouldn’t want to deal with handling a player, but instead handling some other things like new dungeons or the like. Staff isn’t just devoted to handling rogue players. :/ So the ignore command could give them more time to work on content and the like. It’s true that more moderators are being recruited, but some mods are getting promoted to mappers, developers, and admins, meaning they have less time for these bad players. So this might be a bit easier not only for the playerbase, but for the staff as well.
Coding a simple command could prove extremely useful later on. You can’t deny the fact that it could have the possibility of making it easier in the long-run. Though, I won’t deny the fact that it may be abused, hence why I suggested only talking would be cut and not visibility. So it could go either way.
Also… kaen and PoochieHead, take your argument through PM before you cause a flame war. :/ Don’t want to attract any more trouble in this thread than what has already occurred.
What Lucario is saying should be obvious. It’s not the kind of thing that should have to be said out loud. A /ignore command is infinitely more practical and useful for the community than a /hug command, and there’s already a /hug command in the game, so any argument about /ignore being a waste of time falls apart before anyone even touches it. We’ve already got commands in the game for flavor, but this isn’t for flavor, it’s to improve the player experience.
I responded in the way I did earlier because it was in a similar fashion to how MegaClaw started his thread.
A /ignore command would be useless as there are moderators that regularly go onto PMU and try to stop fights and arguments from appearing. I understand that they are not always online or keeping vigilant but they are there for a reason, and that is to keep the peace. Other MMOs do not have moderators because they let players /ignore each other.
A command that lets you ignore players, how is that good, especially in a multiplayer game. Everything in PMU is multiplayer. The dungeons, towns, everything. A /ignore command would greatly reduce your gaming experience. They might have wanted to train with you or maybe they have something you want. There is now a dungeon that requires you to be with someone to go in. How would you go in if you choose to ignore everyone? How would you make friends? How would you do anything?
You also have to remember, an enemy does not last forever. They may be your enemy today, but they can be a friend tomorrow.
EDIT: Written before the three posts before me.
…No. While some games don’t have as much chat moderation as PMU, having one does not negate the need for the other.
It’s the player’s choice and it’s important to give them the option to control their own experience to a reasonable extent. And I assure you, there is nothing reasonable about denying this feature for the absolutely mind-numbing reason you’ve given. If it was based on sound logic, then sure. But it’s not. What’s wrong here? What’s not to get? This isn’t something anyone should have to explain to you guys. It’s common sense. You’re arguing against common sense! It baffles me to no end. With a silly criterion like that, there is no discussion to be had because there is no logic to debate. None. I can’t help you with these things, you’re supposed to figure it out on your own.
Fair enough. But what if the /ignore notified the moderators of a problem? Then maybe it could make it a bit quicker for them to resolve this problem without the commotion of a full-blown argument being created.
You’re saying that like you’ll be ignoring everyone. Besides, that’s why I made the adaption of just cutting off speech instead of making a player completely disappear. True, someone could abuse it, but there’s also the opportunity to just ignore the spammers or something.
This phrase does actually bring up something that could be added. In addition to /ignore, there could be an /unignore command, along with an “Ignore List”. That way, you could unignore someone that has been ignored for a while.
I’ve heard though this may not be implemented by Andy for the reasons you gave above and more. Still, it’s fun to debate this. And honestly, I can’t think of many counters to most of what you said, What. No other MMOs have moderators for the fact that some of the MMOs are extremely popular and cannot be moderated easily, but PMU is still quite small compared to the rest. Communication is extremely important in an MMO game.
Still, it could at least have some potential for those times when moderators aren’t available. Sure, at the moment, it’s quite packed with moderators, but what if we start losing some in the near future? Also, as PoochieHead said, it’s up to the player of how they play the game. If they want to ignore a bunch of users, then let them. They’re just spoiling their own fun of an MMO.
You got some good points, What. Kudos to you! :D
I’ve heard though this may not be implemented by Andy for the reasons you gave above and more.
Who said that, exactly?
