Psyshock Argument

Suggestions and Contributions
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THis is my argument to why TM Psyshock should become a 2-Tile AOE.

Pros
-Psyshock has no universal AOEs, the only two are Stored Power and Synchronoise. Stored Power, very few Pokemon learn it and Synchronoise mainly other types learn it, very few Psychic types.
-Psyshock is close enough to a Psychic clone without the arch, making Psychic overall more useful because of Psyshock’s awful accuracy.
-The attack description of Psyshock is: “The user materializes an odd psychic wave to attack the target. This attack does physical damage.” Waves do go in a straight line to be perfectly honest but, moves like Surf and Muddy Water. They’re waves and they’re massive aoes, so why shouldn’t Psyshock get the same treatment on a smaller scale?
-Its not like this will become a necessary move on all AOE spamming Pokemon, by my count only 13 Non-Psychic type Pokemon Learn it: Clefairy, Clefable, Psyduck, Golduck, Ninetales, Porygon, Porygon2, Stantler, Cleffa, Togepi, Togetic, Togekiss, Porygon-Z, Arceus and Audino.
Arceus and Audino aren’t released. Psyduck, Golduck and Ninetales have better choices of AOEs, so do Porygon, Porygon2 and Porygon-Z, Cleffa, Clefairy and Clefable can use Thunderbolt which covers more. Stantler would love it to be perfectly honest and Togepi, Togetic and Togekiss may benefit from it, but there are better moves for them.
Then there are the mass amounts of Psychic Pokemon who do learn better AOEs but get STAB, making it more benefical. I mentioned the ones above because they dont get STAB, and it gives Psychic a chance to have a good AOE.
-It wouldn’t be extremely overpowered, since 2 tiles can’t really get too much, especailly in the arena where its outclassed by Psychic again and gliding moves like Psycho Cut
-Its a quite rare TM, being in the depth of Pitch Black Abyss where it can take hours to find, and in the current state making it a worthless find (In my opinion)

Cons:
-In the Animé it does state that the ball form in front of the Pokemon when using it, which could lead to controversy.
-There are sources to say that Psywave would fit an AOE better, but Psywave is horribly inconistant, and with a 2-Tile AOE they’re generally perfect accuracy in which Psywave isn’t.
-Some have said: “Psyshock does physical damage off of the special attack stat, that completely differenciates it from Psychic!” Yes, that’s a fair point it has its uses to hit those special walls. But honestly in PMU that really doesn’t matter, in a B/W perspective, yes it would, but in PMU practicality is key, and if Psychic does it better, there’s no point of having Psyshock.

I’ve summed up what people have said, and what I think. Please vote on whether it should or shouldn’t become and AOE.

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I strongly agree with this… Psyshock needs Some Kind of an adjustment. AoE is a great adjustment with this, so I compleatly agree. >:D

3

Yes I think Psychic types need a better AoE. Stored Power and Synchronoise and pathetic and requires some sort of condition in order to do a decent amount of damage damage.

4

I guess, it makes sense. But wouldn’t making it an AoE only give it more horrible acc.? I mean, its bad enough that it misses all the time.

5

Psychic type pokemon need an AOE that a lot can learn, so yeah. It makes sense that Psyshock becomes an AOE. My vote is yes.
-Blood.

6

2 tiles means allowed 100% accuracy

7

Whilst this does seem a bit plausible… you have to also keep in mind, if it ever did become an AOE it will be become weaker, though since it’s a 3 tile spray already… it may be already weakened…
I need other Developer opinions first before such change.

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This whole thing is because I asked Haya, I had a conversation with him about it , we agreed first side (Yes or No) to 15 votes counts or something

9

Sorry guys, I love AOE’s and the Psychic type just as much as you do, but I don’t think Psyshock should be an AOE just because Psychic needs one.

As Alex and I were briefly chatting about on PMU, the moves are meant to be realistic representations of what the move would actually be, not convenient moves that make dungeoning life easier. I know it’d be nice to have a Psychic 2-tile AOE (I luuurrrrve my Tbolt, of course!) but… it just doesn’t seem right.

Sorry!

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I agree! hayarotle, swamp and I clearly pointed out the reasons, and they are listed here. There are more pros than cons! Also, psychic types have almost no good AOE’s. Hence, pretty much agreed! The current spray is very vague, and imprecise.

And to further add details to my argument, I would want to refer to Bulbapedia, to exactly explain to you all what it is.
It is best describes as: The user materializes an odd psychic wave to attack the target. This attack does physical damage.

I also remember Hayarotle saying that “Psy-wave” fitting the description of an AOE, where as if we look closely at “Psy-shock” it somewhat has the same description.

:-Hence an AOE is worth considering.

11

By reading Bulbapedia, it seems more suitable as a long Line Of Sight than a AOE.

12

True, but it’s an argument worth considering.
The description is different, complementing the need to make it an AOE due to psychic-types, where as anime resources show it as a straight line projectiles being throw.

Controversial, huh? :c

13

Tbh, I don’t think psyshock will work good as an AoE. Psyshock has a really good secondary affect for special attackers and making this an AoE would be overpowered imo. I don’t think psyshock should be an AoE because psychics need one… There’s a handful of types that don’t have proper AoE’s for their types either.

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I’d just like to add that the “psychic wave” is more like a wave of light than a wave of water, both in the anime and games.

Although psychic types need an AoE attack, it doesn’t make sense to make Psycshock that attack just because it is available. That being said, a long line of sight makes a lot of sense -

but my suggestion is, why not match it with the Egg Bomb and Mud Bomb tile reach?

15

Psyshock is now a Line of Sight. (Similar to Flamethrower in a sense)
Swampert agreed too.

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I’m just curious, but since the suggestion was won. Shouldn’t this be locked?