Tier 3 Family Items That Overlap With Event Globes

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Here’s a list of all the tier 3 family items that overlap/have the same effect as an event globe item. Please change them, I beg.

Generation 1:

Venusaur:
Solar Sash: Absorbs fire->absorb either flying, psychic, or ice

Charizard:
Flame Bangle: Absorbs water->absorb rock

Blastoise:
Hydro Band: Absorbs electric->absorbs grass

Raichu:
Zapper Scarf: Absorb ground->absorb either dark, bug, or ghost

Sandslash:
Sandy Torc: Absorbs grass->absorb fire

Ninetales:
Afire Collar: absorbs water->absorbs steel

Vileplume:
Aroma Scarf: Absorbs fire->absorbs either flying, psychic, or ice

Parasect:
Firm Hat: Absorbs fire->absorb either poison, rock, bug, or ice

Dugtrio:
Dugtrio Bow: Absorbs grass->absorb water

Persian:
Noble Scarf: Absorbs fighting->absorb either bug or fairy

Golduck:
Paddle Scarf: Absorbs electric->absorb grass

Primeape:
Nullify Belt: Absorbs psychic->absorb either flying or fairy

Arcanine:
Legend Bow: Absorbs water->absorb either rock or ground

Alakazam:
Sparkle Ruff: Absorbs dark->absorbs either ghost or bug

Machamp:
Machamp Belt: Absorbs psychic->absorb either flying or fairy

Victreebel:
Victree-Torc: Absorbs fire->absorb either flying, psychic, or ice

Golem:
Rugged Sash: Absorbs grass->absorb water (or fully change to reduce Super effective damage received since Golem has too many weaknesses)

Rapidash:
Sunlight Bow: Absorbs water->absorb either ghost, steel, ground, or rock

Slowbro:
Slow-Scarf: Absorbs dark->absorb ghost

Gengar:
Sunglasses: Absorbs ghost->absorb either psychic or dark

Hypno:
Dream Coin: absorbs dark->absorb ghost or bug

Kingler:
Super Sash: Absorbs electric->absorb grass

Marowak:
Marowak Torc: Absorbs grass->absorb either ice, rock, ground, or dark

Seaking:
Seaking Bow: Absorbs electric->absorb grass

Starmie:
Starmie Belt: Absorbs dark->absorb either ghost, bug, or grass

Mr. Mime:
Barrier Bow: Absorbs poison->absorb steel

Jynx:
Ruin Scarf: Absorbs dark->absorb either rock, bug, ghost, or steel

Gyarados:
Tempest Sash: Absorbs electric->absorb rock

Lapras:
Mystic Scarf: Absorbs electric->absorb either grass, fighting, or rock

Generation 2:

Meganium:
Bright Veil: Absorbs fire->absorb either flying, poison, bug, or ice

Typhlosion:
Blast Bangle: Absorbs water->absorb either rock or ground

Feraligatr:
Hydro Jaw: Absorbs electric->absorb grass

Azumarill:
Dotted Scarf: Absorbs electric->absorb grass

Sudowoodo:
Fake Torc: Absorbs steel->absorb either grass, water, ground, or fighting

Politoed:
Rain Crown: Absorbs electric->absorb grass

Sunflora:
Sun Scarf: Absorbs fire->absorb either flying, ice, bug, or poison

Wobbuffet:
Suffer Scarf: Absorbs dark->absorb either ghost or bug

Steelix:
Quartz Torc: Absorbs ground->absorb either fighting, fire, or water

Magcargo:
Torrid Scarf: Absorbs water->absorb ground

Octillery:
Psy Bow: Absorbs electric->absorb grass

Mantine:
Horizon Bow: Absorbs electric->absorb rock

Houndoom:
Pit Fang: Absorbs fighting->absorbs either ground or rock

Kingdra:
Tornado Bow: Absorbs dragon->absorb fairy

Donphan:
Armor Scarf: Absorbs grass->absorb either water or ice

Tyranitar:
Crash Claw: Absorbs fighting->absorb either bug, ground, water, grass, or fairy (or fully change to reduce Super Effective Damage received)

Generation 3:

Sceptile:
Drain Bangle: Absorbs fire->absorb either bug, poison, flying, or ice

Blaziken:
Blaze Torc: Absorbs water->absorb either ground or flying

Pelipper:
Stock Scarf: Absorbs electric->absorb rock

Gardevoir:
Caring Scarf: Absorbs poison->absorb either steel or ghost

Shedinja:
Awe Mantle: Absorbs ghost->absorb either fire or dark

Hariyama:
Thrust Belt: Absorbs psychic->absorb either flying or fairy

Wailord:
Huge Bow: Absorbs electric->absorbs grass

Camerupt:
Erupt Scarf: Absorbs water->absorb ground

Grumpig:
Scheme Scarf: Absorbs dark->absorb either ghost or bug

Claydol:
Claydol Torc: Absorbs dark->absorb either water, ghost, bug, or ice

Cradily:
Cradily Bow: Absorbs steel->absorb either bug, fighting, or ice

Milotic:
Grace Scarf: Absorbs electric->absorb grass

Banette:
Ominous Torc: Absorbs ghost->absorb dark

Glalie:
Hail Scarf: Absorbs fire->absorb either fighting, rock, or steel

Walrein:
Walrein Torc: Absorbs electric->absorb either grass, rock, or fighting

Metagross:
Meta-Torc: Absorbs ground->absorb either ghost or fire

Generation 4:

Infernape:
Blazing ruff: Absorbs water->absorb either flying or ground

Empoleon:
Marine Crown: Absorbs ground->absorb fighting

Bibarel:
Dam Scarf: Absorbs electric->absorb either grass or fighting

Kricketune:
Kricke-Torc: Absorbs flying->absorb either rock or fire

Roserade:
Bouquet Cape: Absorbs fire->absorb either flying, ice, or psychic

Rampardos:
Skull Helmet: Absorbs steel->absorb either grass, water, fighting, or ground

Floatzel:
Float Aid: Absorbs electric->absorb grass

Cherrim:
Petal Dress: Absorbs fire->absorb either flying, poison, bug, or ice

Drifblim:
Breeze Scarf: Absorbs ghost->absorb either dark, rock, or ice

Mismagius:
Magic Hat: Absorbs ghost->absorb dark

Honchkrow:
Honch-Cape: Absorbs electric->absorb either fairy, ice, or rock

Garchomp:
Mach Scarf: Absorbs dragon->absorb ice (or I guess fairy, come on though)

Lucario:
Ravage Ring: Absorbs ground->absorb either fire or fighting

Hippowdon:
Grit Veil: Absorbs grass->absorb either water or ice

Toxicroak:
Toxi-Belt: Absorbs psychic->absorb flying

Lumineon:
Lumi-Torc: Absorbs electric->absorbs grass

Abomasnow:
Frozen Cape: Absorbs fire->absorb either fighting, flying, poison, rock, bug, or steel (or fully change to reduce all Super Effective Damage received)

Weavile:
Ruin Armlet: Absorbs fighting->absorb either rock, bug, steel, or fairy

Magnezone:
Builder Sash: Absorbs ground->absorb either fire or fighting

Rhyperior:
Rhyperi-Torc: Absorbs grass->absorb water

Tangrowth:
Clinging Bow: Absorbs fire->absorb either flying, poison, bug, or ice

Magmortar:
Burning Torc: Absorbs water->absorb either rock or ground

Togekiss:
Glitter Robe: Absorbs electric->absorb either ice, rock, or steel

Dusknoir:
Unlucky Sash: Absorbs ghost->absorb dark

Generation 5:

Serperior:
Ivy Ring: Absorbs fire->absorb either bug, poison, flying, or ice

Emboar:
Warmth Orb: Absorbs water->absorbs either flying or ground

Liepard:
Thieves Cloak: Absorbs fighting->absorb either bug or fairy

Musharna:
Dream Bangle: Absorbs dark->absorb either ghost or bug

Gigalith:
Sturdy Sash: Absorbs steel->absorb either fighting, grass, water, or ground

Swoobat:
Courting Jewel: Absorbs dark->absorb either ice, rock, or ghost

Conkeldurr:
Concrete Hat: Absorbs psychic->absorb either flying or fairy

Leavanny:
Leaf Cloak: Absorbs fire->absorb either poison, rock, bug, or ice

Whimsicott:
Fiber Sash: Absorbs poison->absorb either flying, steel, or ice

Lilligant:
Flower Crown: Absorbs fire->absorb flying (for future hisuian version)

Krookodile:
Crook Shades: Absorbs grass->absorb either bug, water, ice, or fairy

Darmanitan:
Darmani-Brow: Absorbs water->absorb rock (for ice variant)

Archeops:
Archeops Scarf: Absorbs electric->absorb either water, ice, or rock

Zoroark:
Illusion Torc: Absorbs fighting->absorbs either fairy or bug (or dark for Hisuian)

Gothitelle:
Edgy Brooch: Absorbs dark->absorb either ghost or bug

Reuniclus:
Reunite Ruff: Absorbs dark->absorb either ghost or bug

Swanna:
Swan-Pendant: Absorbs electric->absorb rock

Vanilluxe:
Delish Scarf: Absorbs fire->absorb either steel, rock, or fighting

Sawsbuck:
Season Crown: Absorbs fire->absorb either flying, poison, bug, or ice

Amoonguss:
Spore Scarf: Absorbs fire->absorb either flying, ice, or psychic

Jellicent:
Jelly Charm: Absorbs electric->absorb either grass or dark

Ferrothorn:
Thorn Bangle: Absorbs fire->absorb fighting

Chandelure:
Ominous Orb: Absorbs water->absorb either dark, rock, or ground

Accelgor:
Shadow Cloak: Absorbs flying->absorb either fire or rock

Mienshao:
Miensh-Sash: Absorbs psychic->absorb either flying or fairy

Golurk:
Power Seal: Absorbs grass->absorb either water, ice, or dark

Bisharp:
Bisharp Cape: Absorbs fighting->absorb fire

Braviary:
Valiant Wing: Absorbs electric-> absorb either ice or rock

Mandibuzz:
Bone Belt: Absorbs electric->absorb either rock, fairy, or ice

Heatmor:
Steam Pack: Absorb water->absorb either rock or ground

Generation 6:

Delphox:
Mystic Wand: Absorbs water->absorb either ground, rock, or ghost

Diggersby:
Diggers Torc: Absorbs fighting->absorb either water or ice

Pyroar:
Pyre Scarf: Absorbs water->absorb either ground or rock

Florges:
Flower Scarf: Absorbs poison->absorb steel

Gogoat:
Grassy Bangle: Absorbs fire->absorb either poison, bug, flying, or ice

Espurr:
Espurr Scarf: Absorbs dark->absorb either ghost or bug

Meowstic:
Mystic Cloak: Absorbs dark->absorb either ghost or bug

Aromatisse:
Fragrant Ruff: Absorbs poison->absorb steel

Slurpuff:
Delicious Ruff: Absorbs poison->absorb steel

Dragalge:
Seaweed Cloak: Absorbs ground->absorb either ice or psychic

Trevenant:
Spooky Twig: Absorbs fire->absorb either flying, ice, or dark

Avalugg:
Iceberg Torc: Absorbs rock->absorb fighting (for hisuian variant later)

Generation 7:

Decidueye:
Sniper Ruff: Absorbs fire->absorb flying (for hisuian variant later)

Incineroar:
Suplex Torc: Absorbs water->absorb either ground or rock

Crabominable:
Frosty Cloak: Absorbs fire->absorb either fairy, steel, flying, or fighting

Ribombee:
Pollen Jewel: Absorbs poison->absorb either rock, steel, or fire

Lycanroc:
Wild Bangle: Absorbs steel->absorb either fighting, ground, water, or grass

Wishiwashi:
Weak Pebble: Absorbs electric->absorb grass

Toxapex:
Toxic Torc: Absorbs electric->absorb psychic

Mudsdale:
Heavy Bangle: Absorbs grass->absorb either water or ice

Araquanid:
Bubble Sash: Absorbs electric->absorb rock

Lurantis:
Orchid Charm: Absorbs fire->absorb either bug, poison, flying, or ice

Shiinotic:
Glow Jewel: Absorbs poison->absorb either ice, steel, or flying

Salazzle:
Corrode Rock: Absorbs ground->absorb either rock or psychic

Bewear:
Hug Scarf: Absorbs psychic->absorb either flying or fairy

Tsareena:
Tropic Crown: Absorb fire->absorb either bug, poison, flying, or ice

Golisopod:
Strategy Torc: Absorbs electric->absorb rock

Palossand:
Palace Seal: Absorbs ghost->absorb either water, ice, or dark

Togedemaru:
Spiky Bow: Absorbs ground->absorb either fighting or fire

Mimikyu:
Haunted Cape: Absorbs ghost->absorb steel

Generation 8:

Rillaboom:
Boom Box: Absorbs fire->absorb either bug, poison, flying, or ice

Cinderace:
Striker Sash: Absorbs water->absorb either ground or rock

Corviknight:
Ebony Mantle: Absorbs electric->absorb fire

Orbeetle:
Spotted Cloak: Absorbs dark->absorb either bug, ghost, rock, or fire

Eldegoss:
Cotton Hat: Absorbs fire->absorb either flying, bug, poison, or ice

Coalossal:
Furnace Torc: Absorbs water->absorb ground

Flapple or Appletun:
either of their items, just change one of them to absorb ice

Frosmoth:
Blizzard Veil: Absorbs fire->absorb rock

Dragapult:
Stealth Cloak: Absorbs dragon->absorb either fairy, ice, or dark

And that, according to the wiki, is all the family items that share an exact ability with the globes. I hope the PMU Staff Team takes the time to look and review all of this and hopefully make a public statement on what will be done about these items. If I’ve missed any other family items on the wiki, I am sorry and please feel free to add on in a comment below. Thank you.

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Mad agree, it sucks that mons like Lucario just don’t get to benefit from their globes in the same way other mons do. Would like to see this changed.

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aside from gen 8 items, I personally don’t think gen 1 to 7 needs any change or fix. I mean, sure there are overlaps, but then what? you just make things more stronger and broken, and imo not needed. Yes there are exception but I think some of them are fine. furthermore these items heal hp instead of just blocking out damage like globes.

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i personally do not feel like fam item sharing globe immunitys is that big of a deal and is fine to leave them be, but there’s a couple of things i need to point out

i’m not a big a fan of this, it’s speciffically to buff the alolan version leaving kanto in the dust, when kanto is the one that needs the bigger buff.
darmanitan who is in the same boat you gave it rock immunity, what’s up with that

uh. azumarill is already immune to grass, it has sap sipper as a ability.

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On many Pokemon, I don’t mind that their family items overlap with globes. In my mind, I see these as a cheaper and more powerful alternative to globes that some mons get access to, while others have family items that are nearly useless.

However, I do agree that changing a few of these would be a good idea. Some of these mons are in desperate need of attention, and adjusting their family items to give them an additional type immunity would be an easy way to make these Pokemon a bit more viable.

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So I’m obviously biased here - but the way I see it, many of the pokémon listed are already somewhat substandard. It seems sorta unfair - or at least illogical - that many of these pokémon just… don’t get access to the same sort of power that other pokémon do. Absorption is a nice benefit to have over straight immunity, but it’s hardly the same as an entire extra 3* fam item, or globe. It really just seems like these mons have been cursed by the luck of the draw.

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I didn’t look at abilities, skipped over them and was just looking purely at the items, that’s my bad. Fire globe already gives water immunity so afire collar on ninetales is already a waste, might as well help out Alolan ninetales who is 4x weak to steel and has no answer to it.

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Making things stronger, that’s the whole point of these items in the first place. If people didn’t want them to be stronger, then why are they here in the first place? If their purpose was to be useless then there’s no need for them to be in the game and since they’re already in the game we should either change them to make them better or just remove them entirely.

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you are aware alolan ninetales also gets 2 globes compared to ninetales single one right?, it dosen’t seem like a fair exchange, kanto still has to deal with rock and ground weaknesses

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Already has water immunity with globe, at least against rock and ground types normal ninetales doesn’t get one tapped unlike alolan ninetales where a steel move would outright kill no matter what.

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Making things stronger and making them broken are two different things. These globes and fam item already make this game super easy, we don’t need to make it even easier.

Furthermore, I said while some are jusified, some overlapped ones are completely ok. Like blastoise, making it have 0 weakness is just imo not good.

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why do keep repeating the water immunity?

what i’m arguing against is specifically giving kanto a bad item that can easily be defined as worthless on it just make alolan ninetales even better despite already way better and liked then regular ninetales,
you could give them rock immunity like darmanitan because they both suffer from that weakness.

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a bit off topic but, is there a lot of fire types that change to ice type when getting regional form of just those 2 coincident.

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My brain energy is too weak to pin down many pokemon specifically because there’s so many on this list but I will say some absorbs are better as family items because they give easier access to a bigger deal of a weakness than the ones offered as replacement. With the current state of how globes are obtained, anyway.

I am personally invested in hoping to see some pokemon change though, like Golduck, Dragapult, and Garchomp !!! are ones I’d really like to see and possibly a few others (just can’t think about which right now too sleepy/spacey)

But I think this would probably require a lot of more individual weighing on other factors of the pokemon. Some pokemon may already thrive and not need such a change and it could just make some pokemon too strong. Having some weaknesses is healthy for balance lol

For example, Kingdra is an insanely powerful pokemon with access to max movement speed and increased attack speed, a great movepool, good stats and a tanky typing. I trained one to 100 and would never at any moment would have felt particularly benefited by fairy immunity because it wasn’t really a problem. Fairies are uncommon pokemon and not much of a threat unless you can’t really hit them back or are 4x weak. Since I used it to run DD, without a recovery move, I actually found the dragon absorb better than the globe.

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I like having a little bit of overlap with globes, it enables using more mons without having to have a tricked-out event token item collection.

Plus I’m against changing the effects of base PMD family items unless they’re broken.

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It’s already worthless since the fire globe nullifies water attacks anyway. A lot of family items are. That’s why I made this post to bring awareness to some of them.

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There’s already several mons with no weaknesses, some that are even stronger and better than blastoise. Why not give some more mons no weaknesses instead of just keeping two separate items doing the same thing?

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Yeah, against cases like that, it’s super hard to argue against changing some of the family items. Honestly, I don’t think family items should heal from a certain type of move but if that’s how it’s going to stay, then…idk, lol. Thanks for bringing that point up.

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your dodging my point,
what i’m saying is that ninetales fam item could be rock immunity, so both forms would be happy rather then just 1

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If you give rock immunity, steel moves will one tap Alolan ninetales while BOTH can live a hit from a rock type move so it’s not needed.