Weekly Event "Fairness" Discussion

Something that has been bothering me ever since I came back to PMU was one of the rules surrounding the Weekly Events that I’d love to get the community’s insight on and maybe just some general clarification because it’s weird and confusing to me.

This is the rule:

Extra note on weekly event rules
Each person should only claim one weekly event pass. If you have existing passes from previous weeks kept in your storage, you’re free to run those - just don’t get more than one new pass this week via alternate characters. If we at any time suspect one person has tried to claim the weekly event pass for more than one of their characters, we hold the right to withhold tokens from all of their characters, and may enact further punishment if deemed necessary. Please play fair out of respect for the game and your fellow community members. If you do accidentally forget and end up claiming more than one weekly pass this week, however, just let staff know and we can work with you to resolve it!

I assume the reason for not being able to claim them on multiple of your characters is because you could be using other profiles to claim multiple weekly events and then eventually using those to boost your main account, which would be unfair…?

I suppose my question is… if everybody has access to it, how does that make it unfair?

Everybody would have to build other characters to the point of being able to run the event, its not like you can really ‘cheat’ on them, the character would need to be relatively established in order to run them so its effort that you’d be putting in in order to have more established reward. There is no ‘unfairness’ in it since everybody has access to it.

It ends up punishing people for having more than one profile rather than rewarding them for spending more time on the game, which is a little weird and confusing to me. This type of rule makes it so people wouldn’t be able to legitimately build another profile without the help of their main profile, without actively harming the value of their main profile, because claiming 2 event passes is illegal.

None of this really makes sense to me considering event passes cannot be dropped, nor can event tokens, so you would need a ton of dedication in order to get anything out of a second profile, anyway. I guess it could saturate the market with too many event items if people were allowed to do that, it’s still just rather confusing to me and I cannot find a good reason for the rule past that.

Obviously this is not to undermine the staff or disrespect the set rules, just genuinely asking for some clarification and discussion about it since it’s been confusing me for a little over 2 months now.

I guess it could saturate the market with too many event items if people were allowed to do that, it’s still just rather confusing to me and I cannot find a good reason for the rule past that.

I’m pretty sure that’s exactly why the rule exist in the first place. Mainly cause character boosting via items is as easy as dropping any somewhat rare item that could be helpful in your house, then picking them up on whatever account you want to boost, so “unfairness” is probably not an issue for staff.

I suppouse that they could just make them undroppable so you can grind the token items on all three accounts but I guess that rule is the best compromise staff could come up with.

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Pretty much what Ruben said. One account with no experience or skill, joining at the worst possible time, could minimally get one event item in 7 weeks, with 6 weeks of free event tokens and one week of doing lab. Which means you could have every event item in the game for doing little more than logging into 54 accounts 7 times. Players with more time on their hands could get it in 4 weeks.

It just makes more sense to block that kind of thing off and still allow people to buy and sell event items, rather than block that market off so that a short list of people (that could previously already give their event items to their other accounts) could boost their accounts at the same time.

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You are correct in that is it not unfair in the context you state.

But it’s unfair in the sense that now everyone needs to have Iike 30 accounts to optimize their income from this.

If everyone was doing it, it would utterly tank the market. Easy solution, admin just makes everything more expensive as well. So instead of an event time costing 25 tokens. It costs 490.

So either everyone has to suffer the unfairness of 2-5 people completely tanking the market with their 50 accounts, Or if admin raised prices, now everyone needs to have 30 accounts to get what they originally got with just one account.

Unfair being that it’s unfair to ask everyone to make 30 accounts just to compete with someone’s quackery.

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your failing to see this would mean the optimal way to grind event tokens would to have 67 emails with 1395 characthers each.

a cap of any kind to prevent a singler player from grinding litteraly every single event token item 3 times over in a single week is neccessary, not limiting alt acounts would in fact let me make over 4000 characthers and make 600 of all those times in 3 weeks, which i don’t i have to explain how that’s not ok,

it’s a lot fairer if owning multiple account was not a determining factor in any grind of any kind
your changing something from “punishing players having multiple accounts” to punishing players for not having enough alt accounts.

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oh yeah i also forgot to adress. this is actively false? ignoring the fact labyrinth dosen’t take anything at all to run,

ikea can be easily beaten with a starter, i done it multiple times i picked up a level 1 totatile i hatched and went there with just it and mindlessly beaten the 3 minutes later,
i have also done it with a uwnoun!

and i don’t doubt sugary would must likely fall just as easily to a fire stater.

the only one that would be a challange would supposedly be boss rush, but i wouldn’t put it past a determined metagamer to find a starter that can beat it on it’s own

but even without boss rush that’s 3 out of 4 that can be done with no set up, from a fresh save file as soon as you choose a starter

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All of y’all’s points make sense. I didn’t even think about someone making multiple ACCOUNTS rather than just the 3 different profiles.

I suppose I’m just not as good at these events as some of y’all are because I couldn’t imagine attempting them on a fresh save.

Thanks for all of the clarifying points, totally clicks as to why they’d just outright ban the use of multiple profiles, now.

Edit to Add:
I still think it kind of sucks that you can’t do it for all your profiles on one account while like, building a new account, but I can also see how it would be difficult to moderate something like, “You CAN claim extra passes for accounts you are BUILDING, but you CANNOT claim extra passes if you’re planning on selling those items.”

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You’re newer to this game, so it’s expected that you’re not as good as some of the senior pIayerbase.

I don’t think your skiIIs are Iacking as one of the previous postss might initiaIIy impIy.

Even though I’m pretty sure i have a decentIy high chance of beating ikea with most of the unevoIved starters and/or easy to obtain pokemon from outside (~70% approx) – i’m not actuaIIy 100% confident with this.

I think if i’m just unIucky with spawnage or movesets, it can just tank my run. I don’t think i couId achieve a 100% success rate. So just because someone can do it, doesn’t mean they can do it perfectIy, every time.

SecondIy, doing ikea with 6 bag spaces is MUCH easier than with just 2.

These random dungeons get a whoIe Iot easier when u can stock up pp items and status curing items and other goodies.

it’s stiII someone difficuIt to run something Iike ikea with a new account, not everyone can do it. And the peopIe that can are usuaIIy the reaIIy senior pIayers.

I’m a player from 2016, then quit in 2019, I’m not new like, at all lol.

Honestly, I feel pretty ancient. I ran Wigglytuff’s Guild with Guildmaster back in the day and we just rejoined and revitalized the guild because we were feeling nostalgic.

That being said, I am new to the weekly events since they either didn’t exist or I skipped out on them because they didn’t used to be as important. I honestly cannot remember if Crystals existed when I was playing before. I know globes definitely did. I also didn’t know anybody who had access to 4x speed at the time so the meta was definitely different. Anyway that’s super off-topic to the post lol.

I can agree that doing Ikea with 6 pages would be a lot easier than with 2, and that a new player would struggle a lot with bringing their starter into the places whereas an older player would do better with it because they know the game better.

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yeah beating ikea consistently with a fresh account would definitely take skills, which would further the gap and fairness of the event itself,

causing older players more experience players who have the skill and practice to beat ikea with a fennekin straight out of the tutorial with only 2 bag spaces consistently to have a much higher amount of tokens then less experiences players who may not be as good with the game,

further straying away from balance

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