Hello everyone, Today i will be talking about how my week has went so far. I have seen many nice things about PMU in my return but the nastiest thing i have seen is the ARENA. Before i was banned the arena was the best thing to do. Skilled players would fight it out with strong pokemon and it was fun to do and watch. Coming back and seeing the new and old players fighting in the arena makes me really annoyed. I have to watch one pokemon with 20 items with super speed and 2 less weaknesses. Not a fun time i will tell you. So i what i had in mind was an arena that wont let you enter with items. This way we can see the true power of your pokemon and no super speed or any of that boring stuff.
So if you are an old arena player who liked the true battles and the fun times, Please support this!
I agree by far with Mico. The arena at the moment is honestly pretty bad, in my opinion. Family items, globes, gems and whatever shouldn’t be involved into arena-battles. I’m fine with dusts, silks and most hold items (like life orb, heal ribbon etc.). Those items shouldn’t cause much trouble as they’re pretty basic. A reason why I don’t agree with the non-basic ones? They’re literally hax. No skill is involved, all weakness disappear and turn into healing the enemy or having no effect at all. People are speed boosting all over the place and one-shotting eachother. Arena might not be a focus to work on for now, but be sure to do something about it some day. I mean, arena used to be a really fun place!
I agree with this. Items just ruin pvp completely, and while I know staff aren’t trying to regulate it anymore, it’s way too broken. This would really help remedy the issue. Perhaps the new arena could go in archford? I’m sure the staff have older arena designs laying around somewhere they could recycle for it.
While I do support the notion of having a separate arena with an item restriction, the philosophy behind your idea does strike me as odd.
While items certainly make things pretty severe, they are not the only cause. Stat distributions, movepools, types of Pokemon as well as the effects of moves are still there. Why don’t you instead ask to nerf Counter variations, stat stages or certain effects like immobilization, especially infatuation and the like, or perhaps even the basic status ailments? Paralysis can make things go very bad.
My previous statement relates to this as well. Things are very unbalanced even without the items in question. Besides, family items ARE the power of your Pokemon, albeit with specific assets.
My topic is not related to stat changes and paralysis etc , It is just a friendly topic that i have discussed with several players that do not like the new items being used in Exbel, but these items are unneeded boosts that just bore lots of players and not want to make them step one foot in the arena
Im bumping this topic because i have been talking about it with others recently and i would love to see the staffs opinion. Please dont lock this topic.
I could see having an arena in Archford that restricts items. I highly doubt it would ever happen since staff are probably doing other stuff and this ranks at the very bottom~
But for your post about items making arena too broken i disagree with that. Arena isnt as simple as just using a high level pokemon to beat your enemy into the ground with brute force. Its about trying to make tactics that would make you super strong, then facing others that had the same goal in mind. Trying to find out which would end up winning is the fun part. If you lose, go back to the drawing board to become stronger. If you win, go back to the drawing board to see how you can improve. Items add in a lot more diversity to arena and make it so much more intense.
Who wants to watch normal Dragon Ball when you have the super op Dragon Ball Z
Btw, just calling it now if a no item arena is made after a week or so it will be completely barren like tanren arena.
The thing is alex, Over the last 4 months of me being in pmu again i have noticed that its all about the items. I wasnt a fan of the whole item scheme thing but like you told me i need to adapt and try it. So i did, Ive used items such as gems globes family items, Things that where so new to me. I mean items such as life orb, silks and dusts have always been in my pmu experience but never really questioned. Last night i tried something different. Kendel was using a whole bunch of items for his lucario, as of I using a whole bunch of items for tyranitar. I said this isnt going anywhere ken lets try something different. I said no items. We both put our items away and went on to fight. The memories of how i first started the arena flew into my brain. All of a sudden i felt way more competitive and i felt it was way more fun. As i saw kendel saying come back and fight me more, It look as if he was experiencing the same as i was. If we can get an arena that suits no purpose of items i personally think it would bring back more veteran players and it will show new players how fun it is without all the new items. Its basically a benefit to everyone. Now for the arena in archford, I think its a terrible idea because as you can see tanren arena isnt too popular. This is because people have to go so far to do something so little. If we can have 2 arenas in exbel it would urge more people to try something new and more people will see how fun a no item arena really is! If we have 2 arenas they can both be placed in the dojo. The regular arena sits on 1 side with a sign that says “Anything Goes!” or something in that area, And then you would have the item arena on the right side that says “No items!”. This idea is perfect because i personally think it doesnt hurt anyone and it would be a great new experience for competitive gameplay in PMU. I hope more people can relate to where im coming from.
Joe I 100% support your idea yeah items can be fun to use but it can also be annoying mainly the rarity 3 item an globes dude to fact people alot people will hide behind there family items so they can avoid there weakness I notice that alot when I’m trying kill these blaziken an they hide behind there blaze torc which is annoying there are ways to overcome your weakness with out items you just have to figure out how an you can’t with out items it takes a skill player to defeat a poke you have a type disadvantage against
An with the no item arena will bring all the skill players together I hope staff consider this idea
If you ban items, then the more detrimental and OP things like stat boosts and status ailments should be gone as well. I don’t mind an arena that restricts items, but it would do nothing against a nasty plot Togekiss. Family items are the least of your worries when you have a pokemon with +10 atk or +10 SpA (stages, so that is a 175% boost) waiting for you in the arena. In fact, speed boost is very comparable to a gem, so why not ban anything that gives you an advantage like that and just have a vanilla battle with no secondary effects and only attacking/recovering moves?
Tanren Arena is a more competitive arena than Exbel, and you saw how deserted it became. In fact, some people still host tourneys in Exbel Arena instead, when that does nothing but make certain pokemon unusable due to their high level. If this arena is made, it will become just as deserted as Tanren arena. Why is that? Perhaps because of the competitive restrictions placed. Though I would like a fight without stat boosts or status ailments…or counter/mirror coat/destiny bond. Items, however, make battles more fun and interesting in my opinion. Besides, you can always ask someone to battle you in tanren arena without items. It isn’t like anyone will interrupt you there.
When you say stat boosting its the least of my worries, If i am going to battle someone im not just gonna let them sit there and stat boost right in front of me thats just not how it works. Pokemon like blaziken with speed boost is something natural its the POKEMONS ability. When someone uses a gem it just makes the fight unnatural because you would never see a rhyperior running as fast as a blaziken would be in a real battle. Asking someone to battle at tanren arena with no items is kinda pointless imo. If you say lets battle with no items with a random these days you never know if they really are not using items such as silks, dusts etc because you cant tell. There is just no indicator of someone using items like those unless its a gem or globe which you can tell easily. I still dont know why people are so negative about this topic when clearly im not trying to take away the regular arena im just trying to get the old arena feeling back.
I didn’t mean to come across as negative. I am just saying that status effects and the like are far more deadly than family items. You can’t attack someone while they boost if they are already boosted. Kas uses nasty plot when no one else is in the arena. How can you stop that? I am fine with this idea, but at least make that arena nerf status ailments, stat boosts, and moves like counter, mirror coat, and destiny bond.
You are missing the point. Read my other post VERY carefully. I said the stat boosting is usually done when no one else is in the arena. You are saying anyone who enters the arena afterwards sucks because they weren’t there? It isn’t like everyone has a level 100 haze user either. If you really must have this arena, make it set all to 100 to make it original at least.
Its not like you cant stop a fully maxed attack pokemon, It can easily be defeated. I dont know what you are trying to say but it kinda is sounding like you are saying you cant defeat kas when she is fully stat boosted but you can, Nothing is impossible
Kas can be defeated, but only if you don’t get hit once. I, myself, use a nasty plot togekiss, and have you ever actually tried to fight Kas when she is maxed out? Why should one hit be the bringer of death in a serious battle where items are not allowed?
Listen, If you want an arena with no stat boost go for it,But right now this is a topic about (No Items) clearly. So if all do respect please refrain from another topic that is as of right now poisoning this subject.
Mmm… I see the conversation is going downhill, what a shocker that. Anyway…
Items in the arena are unfair, I’ll give you that much. Globes and family items to make one immune to everything they are weak against sort of makes any sort of fighting not worth the while. Then you have gems, full status immunity or they are double speed fast, ect… Or they can be like me and use plates, which makes the person kill themselves also, which is always lol worthy, but I digress…
Stat boosting is much the same way. You can’t really go into the arena when someone is sitting in there ( dono for example) with maxed out stat buffs… And as kendel so nicely pointed out, we all must suck for letting them stat boost… oh right, they were already sitting in the arena… funny that.
I get what you want, but I figure it will end up empty just like tanren arena if they make a new arena and put it in someplace like… archford for example.