#freethemega
Can you just give this a rest? The only reason you are mad right now is because you didn’t get your way for once. You are the only player that owns mega stones and therefore you think that it is perfectly fair to make them work. First of all, we don’t even have sprites for megas. Second, Mega Stones are currently unavailable to other players. You just want the mega stones to work so only you get the benefits. Well, I see why staff denied this idea because making you the only person with access to mega evolution is not fair at all. I don’t care if you can script. That does not give you think right to gain all the advantages. You have been over reacting all day and need to just give it a rest. You seem to be the only person complaining about this. Let it go and wait for the stones to be actually available to players and also wait for sprites to be completed before mega evolution becomes a working mechanic on PMU.
The staff team has been very corrupt for a long time. All they care about is the opinions of their dictatorship. They made the ODP chat, yet STILL took discussions to their staff chat and ONLY took into considerations the opinions of staff. What use did the ODP chat even have, then? Art has contributed code for a long time, yet little of it has been implemented due to laziness of staff or the refusal to accept work from someone they don’t like. Then when this happens, staff flee to trello and blame it on Art. The ones who left the ODP chat are cowards. I would prefer people NOT get biased opinions based on rants or the authority of the one responding.
You’re right. I’m the only one with a stone. Am I complaining about not having the sprite? No. In that case not having the sprite does not matter.
If you ever bothered to check the logs or the topic instead of ignoring everything you don’t like and just trying to single-mindedly shame me (again), I want it to work because it’s been 2 years since the promise and I want to already feel like I didn’t spend all my fortune on nothing back when it was important.
If you ever bothered to check the logs or the topic instead of ignoring everything you don’t like and just trying to single-mindedly shame me (again (again)), you would see that not only I’ve been fixing stuff advantageous to other people for the last few days but also that I was arguing against Mega Stones being overpowered and demanded that they are just the small buffs with aesthetics I proposed. So yeah, try to actually read things you try to talk about?
If you ever bothered to check the logs or the topic instead of ignoring everything you don’t like and just trying to single-mindedly shame me (again (again (see a pattern here?))), you would see that it’s only been 10 hours (not that relevant) and that there were many people being on my side in the ODP chat before you ragequit.
I’ve been waiting for a while in poverty and for 2 years on empty promises. The staff sold it to me with a promise that it’s a legitimate one and will work. It’s completely in my rights to be irate about this. Sprites are not a problem with this case. It has already been a working mechanic for 2 days until staff made the extra effort to screw me over.
not to be rude but this is a Very Bad argument. if megastones work, they’ll (likely, or if not knowing pmu the playerbase will have a MAJOR fit) be released to everyone. what does it matter that art is the only one with it now? it’ll eventually be advantageous to everyone, not just him. stop bringing up that its Just Art. its NOT just art, not in the long run. and you know what!! the sooner we get megas coded, the sooner art wont be the only one with mega access! why would we release useless mega stones lol. if we dont get started on it at some point, nothing will change and no one will ever have megas, which im p sure most people on pmu dont want.
also no, we dont have sprites, but they can be made. idk why that’s a problem S: so we have the code before the sprites… so what? at least its there and exists, ready for when we DO get the sprites
jc why are you so anti-mega. like, i hate megas and even i can see how ridiculous this situation is.
I guess we already know how bad the staff team is for a long while now. And these massive changes we had in team don’t make it any better.
Well, maybe if one day they stop defecating to the players’ contributions PMU may improve. I’m aware that some of ArtMax’s old coding was implemented recently, but they were atleast an year old. Same case with the Mega Stone, and I really don’t see why they shouldn’t be working since the code is already in.
But… Knowing the staff, let’s see what excuses they have this time.
I’ll be here watching.
PS: chill pony master RichardG, you don’t know how much Max has contributed for everyone with form fixes, Escape Rope working with wind and other things he might not even use.
Yeah, the staff avoided the topic instead of discussing and coming to a conclusion. They shouldn’t have fled to Trello and blame the whole thing on Art. They should’ve been working on the Mega Evolution mechanic in PMU throughout the two years, but they did? Nope.
Like DarkEevee said, I really hope people don’t get biased opinions…
Even though Art already said it, this idea is already ruined with the Mega Evolutions being in competitive battles, post-game, and all that. In OR/AS, it’s pretty much flaunted around. One example being Lisia.
Regarding the anime… It’s known that the League’s going to have lots of Mega Evolutions (Absol, both Charizard, Sceptile, Garchomp, and I guess you could count Greninja (though that’s because it’s an alternative type of Mega Evolution, like Primal Reversion, for example)), so that’s thrown out the window.
… Isn’t it too early to say that’s their intention? We only have two games (X/Y and Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire) with Mega Evolutions with a third one on the way.
I don’t see what’s the problem, like Kanji said, if it works, then eventually it’ll be available to everyone. You’re just focusing on ArtMax here.
You seem to be forgetting about the people who sided with ArtMax in the ODP chat. I’ve complained about it in a chat as well.
I never knew the PMU staff could be so chaotic… What is going on behind the scenes???
So before the staff pin the blame on me again and ignore the whole intent of this thread that’s even in the thread name itself I’ll just leave these:
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My opinion might not matter much since I haven’t been here awhile, but I will say this.
I think Artmax has a right to be angry about what happened to him in that situation. This isn’t him getting his way, it’s him expecting a promise to be fulfilled after spending money (aka the time he put in to grind up that amount), and investment (time he spent actually coding it to make it work). I don’t see anything wrong with that, even if his approach could’ve been better. I’d be angry too honestly.
If Staff promised him a working stone for his money, then he should either get a working stone, or take away his stone and give him his money back if you’re that worried about the opinion of other players. Personally I wouldn’t mind it if Art did the work. I’d be jealous for a bit if we’re being completely honest, but I would imagine anyone who puts work and time into the game and contributes, code especially, should get something for their contribution. So it’s no skin off my back imo. Him being the only one isn’t a problem. I imagine if it was an auction anyone could’ve gotten that stone, and if it’s a project that’s being developed, everyone would get it anyway. Art would just be the beta tester that had it first. Not really relevant.
I think the staff were very unprofessional in how they handled this. Even if you go off to discuss it in a chat that Artmax isn’t in, he should at least get a gist of what’s being thrown around by the staff about his idea. Speaking from experience as a community manager, having some transparency wouldn’t hurt, especially since he’s the one that put in the work to make the item work. I would think he should at least get that respect.
It shouldn’t take 5 days for a staff member to reply to anything. If you simply forgot to reply, simply just say you forgot it was brought up and apologize. No worries, it happens. Idk how many staff there are total on PMU but 5 days without a reply is a bit on the ridiculous side, even if you have a busy life. One staff member could’ve at least put in their 2 cents so that Art could at least see that people are reading and talking about it. It could’ve simply been a matter of popping in and saying “Hey Art, I read what you said, I’m a bit busy doing a, b, and c, but I just want you to know that I’ve read it and after sleeping on it a bit I’ll tell you what I think.” I think he would’ve been okay with that.
Okay, I’ll give my opinion here, as a staff and as a player, since I recently got back to the team.
Regarding evo stones, I believe that what the staff did to you, two years ago Art, it’s by no way fair and I understand why would you want the mega stones to work. I also understand how frustrating it can be to contribute with something that hasn’t been added because I have been there too.
In my opinion, to fix the damage that was made to you before, the staff should give you the money you paid for your evolutionary stone, double it if needed (Since, as you say, money doesn’t worth as much as back then).
But I do like to think it is better for players to get such items as mega stones together, from zero, hence it wouldn’t be fair if you have one already. I understand the whole situation is unfair, and believe me, it is not fair to ANY of us, and while the team may have been unfair to you two years ago, this doesn’t mean this can’t be fixed now, but probably not the way you suggest.
I believe there’s a team for a reason, even if the ODP was created (We all got great features from there, including some of your codes) the staff has always made the decissions they thought it was better for the community. I personally listen to ALL of you and based on that I try to decide what I think is best. But wether you all like it or not, decissions are taken by the team, that is WHY there is a team anyways. We can make mistakes, just like everyone else, but as i stated before, we always try to choose what is the best from everyone, from the fresh new player to the older veteran.
Mega stones WILL be released, but we need to test them and find the most situable way to release them. In my opinion that is what would be fairer for everyone.
By now, after speaking directly to the staff, I don’t know what a better approach would be.
By now, after speaking directly to the staff, I don’t know what a better approach would be.[/quote]
There’s always a way to be professional about a conflict, even if something irks or angers you. XP That’s why I said that.
And regarding the ODP chat, that thing was always a joke. It was full of people not giving any sort of decent feedback, drama queens, and off topic things. Of course there was a bit of discussion, but most of the time? Nah.
I would like to point out… money is not worth anything right now and I still had to deal with poverty then and waited another 2 years on a promise.
Except… the ODP chat is rarely ever responded to by staff. The whole mess is just an example. No one responded for 5 days. Then it was brought up for another 5 hours and was even in the staff chat. No one named a reason as to why it’s a bad idea. I’m sure Nuxl wouldn’t have overlooked staff bringing up any serious concern about it, so that just proves the staff did jack for 5 days even when it was dragged to their little private chat. Then there were another 2 days when they could’ve sorted it out in a good manner. You know what happened later.
One of them was already released and then after poverty and 2 years I finally got proof that staff don’t care and when someone tried to justify the suffering staff just slapped me in the face after 2 days. I may as well deserve a few small buffs that don’t give me any actual advantage but atleast they make me feel like it was not a waste, no?
Regarding the current thread though: it’s not a thread about the mega stone. This is the subject.
You’re welcome to offer your opinions and participate in the discussion here, but you’re NOT allowed to insult anybody or be disrespectful like the way you were in your posts. That’s completely unacceptable. If you do it again (seeing as how you’ve done it twice already), there will be consequences.
Scizivire, Festivo and then Erlade mocked me about the whole subject, but since they’re staff it’s okay?
Let everyone hate me more so here we go.
Artmax shouldn’t even complain about money as an issue. it was 2 years ago that the stone was bought. the money could easily be earned back. We have dungeon now that are ten times better for money making than back then. Also, artmax said himself once that he has about 15 storage accounts. How does someone need that much storage for hoarding items? Most of those items could be just sold to kecleon for more money. if you truly don’t want to sell those items then go to more dungeons such as Dragons Descent or Sky Fortress. Those dungeons along can get you 1mil poke in a day with the right rewards such as Relic items from SF. Money is very abundant on the ground in DD as well. In short, money shouldn’t even be an issue here as it is easy to earn and is rarely spent in large amounts anymore.
Which I couldn’t just do because we didn’t have anything like we have now, I’m not even sure if we had IV back then but that place has no money anyway. I see you didn’t read a single thing again except for what’s convenient for you to rant about.
So did you know that it happened 2 years ago, not now? I didn’t have that many alts then, I didn’t have so many items at that point and we definitely did not have those dungeons. Can you please start thinking about what you say instead of just spouting nonsense you made up?
I’m sure you know that I was not a part of the ODP group when this whole situation was occurring, and I was not even a staff at the time as well. To be completely honest I am not 100% familiar with the whole situation and I have not read the logs, but I don’t believe mocking is necessary, staff or not. I’m not pointing fingers; just saying. Also, that was never said and I would appreciate it if you didn’t put words in my mouth. Thanks.